Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump strikes 2

jergul large member	Fri Jun 27 05:16:52 Sammy Absolutely not fan-fiction boy. You are wrong on all points. USAF bomber losses overall is less than 2% of sorties flown. There was a bad week in 1943 where the ration was as high as 13% for an individual group. It really is sad to see your total intellectual breakdown. Iran's military lost 90 pieces of hardware that have been visually confirmed. Including things only damaged and stuff like excavators and bulldozers. Air defence losses were almost nill. This alone is incompatible with any type of systematic overflights by manned air frames. You really have to try and ground your emotions on a semblance of available data. As it stands, it just seems like you are off your meds.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 27 05:25:34 You are just making up retarded shit at this point.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 27 05:37:51 http://www..._STRATEGIC_BOMBING_SURVEYS.pdf The link to confirmed losses Iran (90 in total including damaged and things like bulldozers, already provided). Bomber losses are 1.5% of sorties for the US in europe, 1.7% for bomber command.
murder Member	Fri Jun 27 09:01:42 "Air defence losses were almost nill." You can't destroy what they don't have. -
jergul large member	Fri Jun 27 09:08:27 A simple google would help you out a lot murder. Iran has literally thousands of individual air defence units (as in a Patriot system consists of up to 10 individual units). Density is another matter. Iran is huge.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 27 10:34:53 Lmfao. Ya jergul you really slayed the israelis with your giant network of extremely effective and invincible air defenses. You go.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 27 11:35:28 Israel has a giant network of extremely effective and invincible air defences. And went from shooting down 90% of missiles to shooting down 65% of missiles defending a postage stamp of a country. Perfection is not the idea. Forcing the opposition to rely on stand-off attacks is the idea.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 27 12:01:55 Jergul is such an authentic simulation of a regime sycophant that I find myself checking his posts for watermark stamps from PressTV. He has an incredible talent for framing catastrophic strategic paralysis as deliberate restraint—like a guy tied to a chair claiming he’s practicing stillness meditation. He is not even defending IRGC military capability anymore—he’s defending the idea that not dying immediately is proof of strategic genius. At this rate, a smoking crater will become a data point in favor of regime stability.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jun 27 12:08:56 Hes been on team soviet for at least 20 years and it just got handed yet another crushing defeat. I think his mind is latching onto CT posts and regime propaganda as a desperate defense machanism. Sort of like some poor iranian turning off his radar when the israeli harm missile is already inbound.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 27 12:45:05 Yawn. I see you have run out of arguments. Not that any of you really had any arguments going from you at any time anyway. I just see the shortcomings in ambitions of forcing regime change on Iran kinetically. It boils down to the unavoidability and undesirability of an open ended conflict.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 27 12:52:04 Incidentally, it looks like the cost for Israel will be about 1 billion dollars a day. For reference, its gdp is 560 billion USD. Yes, I know the US will cover most of that one way or another, but it is one way of understanding why an open ended conflict is not great. It costs Israel 65% of its daily gdp every day.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 27 13:01:05 Not that I am getting defensive. I have said many times that the invasion, occupation and annexation Russia has done is worse than anything the US has pulled off since wwii. I frankly dont know how I can more harshly condemn it. What I more generally have talked about is the limitations inherent to airpower. Particularly when you combine it with very low casualty tolerance. The US for example is still the premier military power if only it had the balls to lose say 500 soldiers a day in a sustained conflict. But withouot that, well...then you have the limitations inherent to airpower.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 27 13:30:33 Jergul, Thank you for this thrilling page-turner! From "Iran's defense is working" to "Israel can't afford to keep winning." The only tiresome thing is the strategic fatalism you're voicing. You were telling us the Islamic Republic deterred Israel with its vast and magnificent air defense network. Now that network has been shown to be mostly silent, pre-disabled, or irrelevant—and instead of walking that back, you’ve shifted to arguing that sustained pressure would be too expensive for Israel. Lol :) We just watched a man lose a chess match in 12 moves, and now we have Jergul lecturing the room on how checkmate is inefficient! And your bomber analogy… ignoring stealth and cyberwarfare, EW, stand-off weapons, satellite recon—the difference between carpet bombing Cologne and deleting a radar site in Isfahan, or taking out an IRGC general in a single room in an apartment in Tehran. It’s like comparing a trebuchet with a hypersonic missile and calling them both “siege tools.” My friend, you’re just narrating a slow collapse and hoping no one notices the regime lost its pants on the first night. Strategic patience, right?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 27 14:05:00 Islamic Republic of Iran – Ministry of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics CONFIDENTIAL REPORT – INTERNAL CIRCULATION ONLY Subject: Evaluation of Zionist Regime Aggression and Sacred Air Defense Response Date: 7 Tir 1404 (June 27, 2025 CE) Prepared by: Strategic Coordination Office, Passive Defense Command In the Name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful “And when they come to strike, remain steadfast like the mountain, for the mountain does not strike—it endures.” – Martyr General Hassan Tehrani Moghaddam (may his light endure) Overview: At approximately 02:40 local time, the Zionist entity launched a complex multi-vector operation using stealth aggression, cyber intrusion, and stand-off munitions. While the attack was expected due to recent provocations in occupied Palestine and American incitement, the heroic forces of the Islamic Republic responded with calculated restraint and strategic wisdom, in accordance with the Supreme Command’s directive for Asymmetric Strategic Resilience. Key Outcomes: 99.8% of Islamic Republic territory remained untouched by enemy munitions—proving the futility of their psychological warfare campaign. Air defense units maintained operational integrity through disciplined silence, ensuring long-term survivability in the face of hostile electronic warfare. Several projectiles were intercepted mid-air, exact locations undisclosed for security reasons. Civilian areas remained shielded by the divine protection that surrounds our nation. Damage Report (Unofficial/Unverified – Pending Final Review): Minor structural damage reported at a non-critical research facility near Isfahan. Two agricultural vehicles and a bulldozer sustained superficial damage—currently undergoing heroic repair. No loss of military personnel. Two volunteers received minor injuries and have requested immediate redeployment. Psychological Victory Indicators: Global Zionist media failed to portray the operation as a success, instead relying on “anonymous sources” and “Western officials.” The enemy’s need for stand-off distance demonstrates their fear of our sacred soil. Social media analysis indicates increased international solidarity with the Iranian nation and the Axis of Resistance. Strategic Response Narrative (Phase III – “Thundering Silence”): The Armed Forces, by exercising divine patience, have drawn the enemy into a position of strategic overextension. Rather than playing into their escalation trap, our command chose the path of dignified forbearance, awaiting the opportune moment to deliver a calibrated, devastating response at the time and place of our choosing. This decision affirms the Islamic Republic's mastery over escalation ladders and narrative dominance in the information battlefield. Recommendations: Continue cyber-vigilance and maintain full passive defense posture. Deploy controlled leaks suggesting “vast retaliatory options under consideration.” Prepare spiritual mobilization content for Basij distribution ahead of Quds Day. Begin production of a 7-part documentary dramatizing the failure of Zionist aggression for IRIB Channel 1. Glory to the Martyrs. Victory belongs to the Patient. Death to the Zionist Entity. Signed, Brigadier General Abdul-Emad Jergul Soleimani Deputy for Strategic Information Superiority and Passive Defense Affairs Ministry of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics
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