Utopia Talk / Politics / "Should've kept your fucking mouth shut"

Forwyn Member	Fri Feb 05 14:13:04 effrey Spaide, 47, was a Pennsylvania engineer who shot and killed his two neighbors and then fatally shot himself after a dispute erupted while they were shoveling snow in Plains township, investigators say. James Goy, 50, and Lisa Goy, 48, were shot to death during the argument, shortly after they exchanged insults with Spaide, according to The Citizens’ Voice. According to the news site, police officers found the Goys “dead in the street.” A surveillance video has emerged that shows the shooting. You can watch it below, but be aware that it’s graphic. A relative posted this photo along with a tribute to the Goys that read, in part, “Happier times, not long ago. 3 of these beautiful people are no longer with us. My aunt … was taken by cancer and now my cousins Jimmy and Lisa have had their lives cut short senselessly. … It’s been a rough year for my Goy family. We get so caught up in life and petty arguments. The life we’re given is often too short. Learn to forgive, don’t sweat the small stuff, and spend that time with those you love because you just never know when it will be the last time.” The post also said that Lisa Goy leaves behind a son. The video shows the Goys, who were shoveling snow, exchanging insults with Spaide, although it’s not clear in the video what sparked the dispute. The version above has been edited to remove expletives and the actual moment the people are shot. The full video can be found here. “F*** you,” a man shouts. “You’re a f****** scumbag,” says Lisa Goy. Then, Lisa Goy says, “Go ahead, go ahead.” Spaide then shoots both of the Goys. Lisa Goy falls in the street, and Spaide walks over and shoots her again at close range. “Call the cops now, I’m shot,” shouts James Goy as he runs off. “He shot me.” Spaide then runs after James Goy and fires another shot. Other people rush to help the fallen couple. The Luzerne County District Attorney told Fox56 that the Goys were “clearing snow from their cars” as Spade was “shoveling his driveway.” According to the television station, Spaide asked the Goys to stop “throwing snow onto [his] property.” The station reported that James Goy then threw a snow-removing “implement” and “cocked his fist” at Spaide. Heavy reached out to the DA and police for more details. According to The Citizens’ Voice, the Goys continued hurling insults at Spaide even after seeing he had come back outside with a gun. The newspaper said that, according to prosecutors, Spaide shot the Goys with a handgun and then went into his house to get an AR-15-style rifle to shoot them more times. ccording to online records, Spaide was from Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. His LinkedIn page says he was a “professional engineer with experience in water / wastewater projects, landfills, transfer stations and other waste processing facilities.” According to LinkedIn, he worked as a facilities engineer for the Lackawanna River Basic Sewer Authority for five years. He also worked as an environmental engineer manager for the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection and as a project engineer for the Carroll Engineering Corporation for more than 10 years. His duties with the Department of Environmental Protection included serving “as chief of the regional permitting section and supervised professional staff engaged in the review of plans, specifications and permit applications to determine conformance with Commonwealth laws and Department of Environmental Protection regulations.” He was previously an engineering technician and heavy equipment operator with the U.S. Navy. He had a master’s degree in water resources and environmental engineering from Villanova University and a bachelor’s degree from Wilkes University in environmental engineering. Spaide was certified as a professional engineer in the State of Pennsylvania. Spaide’s obituary says that Jeffrey A. Spaide, 47, of Plains, “passed away Monday, February 1, 2021 at his home.” It says he was born in Wilkes-Barre to William Spaide and the late Margaret (Gibbon) Spaide. The obituary then recounts his engineering pedigree, saying, “Jeff was employed as a licensed engineer for over 20 years. He also served in the United States Navy, working as a shipboard engineering technician. He later transitioned into the United States Army National Guard and United States Navy Reserve as a heavy equipment operator.” The obituary says he was a marathon runner who enjoyed “spending time with his family, especially his nephew. … He was a loving son, brother and uncle who will be greatly missed by his family and friends.” http://heavy.com/news/jeffrey-spaide/
Wrath of Orion Member	Fri Feb 05 14:18:53 They all sound like great people. Shame they're gone.
Rugian Member	Fri Feb 05 14:30:00 Definitely all Biden voters.
The Third Reich Member	Fri Feb 05 14:32:13 Terrible decline of the race..
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Fri Feb 05 14:48:11 The leading motive for murder in US is personal arguments.
sam adams Member	Fri Feb 05 14:53:04 "the Goys continued hurling insults at Spaide even after seeing he had come back outside with a gun." Smart
Wrath of Orion Member	Fri Feb 05 14:59:45 At least they weren't pussies.
Paramount Member	Fri Feb 05 16:00:13 ”According to the news site, police officers found the Goys “dead in the street.” The goys? So the shooter was a jew?
Rugian Member	Fri Feb 05 16:17:26 I am curious as to how that surname was developed. Was their great-great-grandfather like the only Christian who lived in a Jewish village?
Y2A Member	Fri Feb 05 16:41:37 "Rugian Member Fri Feb 05 14:30:00 Definitely all Biden voters." -Owns a gun -Thinks he owns the entire neighborhood -Loses his temper when he doesn't get his way Sounds like a MAGA
Y2A Member	Fri Feb 05 16:43:40 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luzerne_County,_Pennsylvania Year Republican Democratic Third parties 2020 56.6% 86,929 42.3% 64,873 1.1% 1,697 2016 57.9% 78,688 38.6% 52,451 3.5% 4,762 2012 46.7% 58,325 51.5% 64,307 1.8% 2,213
Rugian Member	Fri Feb 05 16:44:10 Y2A I was joking, but if I revise your criteria just a bit it would definitely apply to a Biden voter: -Owns a gun -Thinks he owns the entire neighborhood -Loses his temper when he doesn't get his way -Is black/Mexican
Y2A Member	Fri Feb 05 16:51:12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7VaXlMvAvk
Forwyn Member	Fri Feb 05 20:10:10 "-Thinks he owns the entire neighborhood" Not really relevant to the question of neighbors dumping shit in your yard and on your driveway
Paramount Member	Sat Feb 06 01:57:24 Chances are all three of them were Trump supporters. All three of them were angry and bitter. There is a chance that this would not have happened if they all had worn their red MAGA hats. I think they would have been more friendly towards eachother then.
patom Member	Sat Feb 06 03:41:30 This is why I like not having neighbors within talking distance :)
Paramount Member	Sat Feb 06 07:21:51 When I retire I hope I can also move out to the countryside somewhere. Away from neighbors and from the traffic in the city. Preferably near a lake so I can catch fish. I would also like to grow my own potatos and tomatos.
Dukhat Member	Sat Feb 06 07:22:44 Nobody cares when black people do this to each other and I don’t care when white people do it to each other either,
sam adams Member	Sat Feb 06 10:35:03 ^butthurt that a race of criminals is given less attention than a race of builders.
Hrothgar Member	Sat Feb 06 11:14:36 Never underestimate the power of "oh, I'm sorry man, didn't realize..." when facing a rage situation. You can call them "fucking scum bags" later in the privacy of your own home and make angry tirades on Facebook that all your digital friend will thumbs up.
Paramount Member	Sat Feb 06 12:00:52 ” You can call them "fucking scum bags" later in the privacy of your own home” Or you can go home and get your gun.
obaminated Member	Sat Feb 06 16:30:31 i bet the couple were on drugs, who the fuck mouths off to a deranged guy pointing a gun at them?
patom Member	Sat Feb 06 16:37:31 Obaminated, apparently you've never lived in a city. Street battles like this are always brewing and every once in a while the escalate to murder. All three of these people were in their 40's and apparently had been antagonistic toward each other. Sort of like a snowball rolling down hill. It keeps building and building and building.
Cherub Cow Member	Sat Feb 06 20:07:01 4chan autists have a.. different.. take ;p http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/306898158 "Schizo here, this video is an attempt at creating a trigger with which to activate the people who are too pissed off or scared to care anymore. Notice how one side provokes (smarmy pricks) the action, the other guy MODELS his rage, the guy talking shit screams like a girl, the one bitch can't stop talking, this video has everything! And everything is needed to instill the idea that violence gets results. If you're into MK Ultra psyops, think of this and its marketing campaign (post related) as an attempt at planting a principle into the population to get someone, ANYONE to take a stand against verbal provocation. The subjects have no distinguishing characteristics to identify with. Thus, fearful types could see this as the potential death that awaits them if polarization continues, or angry types would see this as proof of how those who anger them will show respect when faced with a gun. Point being, this video works on both sides and provokes equal respect for action. They WANT something to happen. Of course, this could all just be a natural dispute (caught on high def. security cam with audio recording) from the house of the two people who just died, which got uploaded in time to match Biden's Defense Secretary, Lloyd Austin, telling the entire US military to stand down. And if it IS just a natural phenomena, then we're especially fucked because everything is going to start looking like a provocation for one to pop off, short of someone actually popping off. Do not give them what they want, for it's how they win. Violence will be blamed on us and give them everything they need to claim power. Don't give it to them." Autistic TLDR: propaganda media hasn't yet gotten the results that they want ( http://i.imgur.com/5L1gPKn.png ), so.. false flag designed to put citizens on edge for civil strife? ;) .. Slightly more realistic 4chan peeps were bringing up a recently popular '80s video of Yuri Bezmenov explaining the Soviet/Russian strategy of destabilizing a nation (made popular from the new Call of Duty; longer video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9TviIuXPSE ). The shooting would be an example of demoralization in effect. Government control during COVID has taken away citizen purpose, which has created nihilism, powerlessness, and poor risk management strategies in the streets.
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